‘Zelensky Will Commit Suicide…in a Lavatory with a Scarf lik Berezovsky’

– Tariq, many don’t understand the size of occasions in Ukraine, the size of what…

– Tariq, many don’t understand the size of occasions in Ukraine, the size of what the Ukrainian authorities have unleashed. Even earlier than the particular operation, not simply strain started, however what can actually be known as repression. Persons are accused, invited for interrogations,   imprisoned for no purpose . Some individuals disappear and nothing is understood about them. You nearly fell beneath the millstones of those repressions. What’s taking place?

– I’ve a sure deja vu with 2014. The one factor I’d say is that now the scenario is way worse and harder. In 2014, individuals additionally disappeared, in enormous numbers. The one factor is that these individuals, a lot of them, weren’t coated by the media in any approach. I imply, we don’t even know the place they’ve gone. Now the scenario is completely different within the sense that over eight years a sure circle of individuals has shaped, in the event that they managed to get on some tv channels, they freely stated that this isn’t regular, this must be modified. I’m not even speaking about radical sentiments, many individuals stated: guys, let’s assume – this isn’t completely right. Someway they tried to easy the corners. 

I’m nonetheless shocked that Dzmitry Marunich was taken away (to the SBU – ed.), he’s extra of an skilled on power, a specialist who particularly identified – guys, you have got an issue right here, and right here, that’s, it’s essential to do some conclusions and handle Ukraine’s power assets extra successfully. There have been no ardent statements to throw off Zelensky , Poroshenko and so forth. However in the long run, even in innocent political scientists, the trendy authorities of Ukraine sees a hazard for itself. That’s why they’re taking everybody.

– Sure, Marunich was simply a kind of well-known media individuals who usually spoke in Ukraine.ru with another, that’s, completely different from the official viewpoint …

– On the one hand, it’s even a plus that the fellows have been recognized within the media, as a result of in spite of everything, sure organizations are requested the query about: the place is Kononovich, the place is Yan Taksyur , the place are different individuals with an energetic place? I actually hope that some form of alternate fund can be created and the second will come when there can be at the least some sense within the negotiations between the Russian and Ukrainian delegations…

Due to this fact, the scenario is de facto sophisticated, it has develop into extra sophisticated, I, once more, evaluate it with 2014. The complexity lies in the truth that the Peacemaker web site has appeared, which marks all objectionable individuals, and particularly energetic patriotic figures are guided by it. Plus, the looks of such an software “Who’re you”, which additionally works on the premise of the “Peacemaker”. It’s already working when it comes to identification identification.

In any case, the ring is shrinking now. All individuals have to [be careful]… This isn’t nearly bloggers. Hazard is rising from all instructions. As a result of everybody understands completely properly {that a} hungry particular person is an individual with a barely altered notion of actuality. If an individual is hungry, then he’ll commit any crime in an effort to proceed his organic existence. And you must perceive that the fellows who got weapons are a form of individuals. A lot of them trigger concern.

Once more, leaving [the territory of Ukraine] can be an increasing number of tough. And never solely to individuals with an energetic civic place, but additionally to peculiar individuals who have preserved some values, as a result of everybody understands that an individual who travels someplace overseas, he most probably takes one thing small, not heavy, however priceless. And, subsequently, they’ll listen and search for it. The weaker the central energy, the stronger would be the energy of the ochlocracy – the ability of the group, the ability of uncontrolled individuals who have weapons. They’ll fulfill their major wants – they’ll search for meals and valuables. The worth of human life in Ukraine is quickly falling, life is depreciating. I don’t need to be a person of the apocalypse, however sure conclusions should be drawn.

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I counsel bloggers who’ve a lot of subscribers who’re opinion leaders to take a seat quietly and wait now. Get out you probably have an actual choice, even 50/50 – that’s sufficient to attempt to get out – get out. If not, then gentle up as little as attainable, change SIM playing cards, change telephones, because the serial variety of the telephone can be tracked.

– Right here I needed a little bit extra element, as a result of not everybody noticed your video with suggestions. Inform us learn how to depart the nation, what safety measures ought to be noticed and learn how to defend your self when you can’t depart?

— I’ll retell my story , it is vitally easy. When the confrontation started, when every little thing had already became a sizzling section, I turned off the telephones, pulled out the SIM playing cards, used one other telephone and bought one other SIM card. As for the placement. Not even on the place of registration, I believe that is apparent to everybody – if there’s a risk of fixing the placement, then after all, you alter it. It’s advisable to not keep in a single place for greater than two or three days.

Decrease communication. If somebody you recognize writes to you, then don’t unsubscribe instantly, or, if attainable, name and guarantee that that is the fitting particular person. However this additionally doesn’t give any ensures, as a result of this particular person could also be in locations not so distant. 

Don’t belief anybody. The CIA had a slogan: “Belief No person” is about the identical factor. And search for alternatives by way of trusted individuals. Suppose, in our case, we will attempt to assist individuals in whom we’re positive that these are our individuals.
I now obtain loads of messages: “Tariq, we noticed your video, how can I contact you and depart”? Right here instantly there’s a sure complexity – I have no idea who’s writing to me, and subsequently I can not reply correctly. We assist now these individuals in whom we’re assured. I can say that one other fascinating particular person bought out [of the country] 4 days in the past, however I believe he’ll present himself, so in any case there are optimistic outcomes.

Pricey buddies, now could be a tough time, we should put together for what can be much more tough, we should not create any illusions for ourselves. The scenario is as it’s, put together for the worst and hope for the most effective.

– Certainly, many individuals who suffered from repression – they’re fairly media. Many collaborated with Western media, with Western firms. How nice is the participation of the West of their destiny, as a result of we keep in mind very properly that always completely different NGOs and foundations help political prisoners, they stand like a mountain, particularly in the identical Russian Federation, or, within the case of Ukraine, whether it is helpful for them. And now, how energetic are Western NGOs, Western constructions, at the least serving to to find out the whereabouts of individuals, serving to these individuals in locations of detention? The identical Jan Taxiur wants medical assist.

“As I perceive it, you might be hinting at how open-minded they’re, how they’re in circumstances the place individuals who don’t belong to their ideology undergo? Effectively, as traditional, Western constructions are very selective. Basically, it’s shocking, we’re such a naive individuals, irrespective of what number of horrible circumstances of double requirements there are, we nonetheless have some hope that some Western constructions might help us, this court docket of the ECtHR – we have to file it there, and that’s it this can change…

Guys! Way back, everybody gave a rattling about worldwide regulation, and an important representatives of this worldwide regulation additionally spat on us, and on people who find themselves ideologically related with us in a technique or one other. Due to this fact, once more, we have now an enormous variety of illusions, which, I hope, can be damaged within the close to future. Allow us to keep in mind Julian Assange , a obtrusive case – a person actually suffered for the reality. You realize, as we have been all the time taught in school, in Soviet occasions: “pioneer, all the time inform the reality.” Then, when the pioneers have been gone, additionally: “guys, let’s be sincere, honesty is sweet.” 

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However in the long run, we see that honesty is a direct highway to Calvary, and Julian Assange, sadly, is a vivid instance of this. An individual has been persecuted since 2010 by Western intelligence businesses, Western NGOs, as a result of they’re instantly related with the intelligence companies. An individual was disadvantaged of 12 years of life.

Now they’ve accredited his extradition.

Sure, he can be extradited. 175 years in jail. I’m questioning if that is some form of mockery or they actually count on … properly, write already “for all times”, why these 175 years? And what about you, the corpse will proceed to be saved at dwelling, how is that this to be understood? Or do you count on that the extent of drugs will enhance a lot that we’ll preserve it right here for one more 175 years? As they are saying, it’s all nonsense. It’s horrible that Julian Assange, the person who created Wikileaks in 2006 and posted data on his useful resource that make clear the crimes dedicated by the US and its buddies, NATO companions, is being persecuted. Crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. 

I nonetheless can not perceive what number of representatives of the patriotic group in Ukraine don’t see the apparent issues, why the state … I listed the new spots that have been shaped due to the US, however there are rather more of them. You may keep in mind Vietnam, keep in mind the Korean battle and others. And so, individuals know that such an enormous variety of conflicts on this planet occurred due to the US. Why do you assume that the US will come and pat Ukraine on the pinnacle? Why did you assume that they’d love Ukrainians, due to language or embroidered shirts?

I don’t perceive such silly naivety, the place does it come from? The place? It appears that evidently individuals nonetheless come from the USSR, there should be some form of training, kind of, cognitive skills should be current. And right here – I look, and typically despair seems in me, due to how silly and naive you might be.

On the one hand, I’m extraordinarily glad that a lot of Ukrainians have now left for the West, for Western Europe. I consider that this can be a phenomenally rewarding expertise that may set the brains of lots of people. In truth, it is going to be a mutually helpful expertise. Europeans will straighten the brains of visiting Ukrainians, and our visiting patriots will straighten the brains of Europeans. 

Now I’ll climb into the jungle, however I believe that Europe is on the verge of such colossal issues that what we skilled in 1991 within the post-Soviet house will look like flowers. As a result of at first the Syrians, Afghans, Arabs, representatives of different African international locations got here there, they intensively crammed the European house. Now refugees have arrived from Ukraine.

Now we see the operation of Turkey. We must always not neglect that the Turks have been a sure barrier to the inflow of refugees, in spite of everything, Merkel ‘s grandmother paid Erdogan good cash. So, let’s think about, if this operation towards the Kurdistan Employees’ Social gathering actually drags on, then these refugees will flee from Turkey, Europe will nonetheless take a sip.

And the European continent… Now we’ll take a look at the elections in France. It doesn’t matter who wins, Le Pen or Macron , but it surely appears to me that it is going to be “enjoyable” in France. The energetic grid of “sleepers” works.

What occurred in Ukraine? There was a preparatory course of for the formation of “sleeping” grids, which labored with lightning pace in 2014. Now in France, for 3 or 4 years now, “yellow vests” have been operating round, so that is the formation of a community of passionaries who will explode. It doesn’t matter who wins now.

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I’ve a sense that Europe can be degreased a little bit. For goal causes, as a result of the world will now be divided into forex zones. Europeans have a convertible forex, the euro, however they don’t have their very own military, they don’t have their very own superior expertise, they don’t have their very own particular unity, and subsequently they’re excellent sufferers for degreasing. So liposuction by the Individuals might be very severe. If the Individuals have an interest on this, then it can quickly be very “enjoyable” in France.

Let’s return to Ukraine. You talked about that we have now very naive individuals in some ways. And these naive individuals three years in the past nonetheless believed in modifications for the higher, they believed that this may occur when Vladimir Zelensky grew to become president. Three years have handed because the reign of Vladimir Alexandrovich. Your evaluation of those three years. Abstract for as we speak. What do you assume would be the finish of Zelensky’s rule?

– Dmitry Dzhangirov and I hosted the Worldwide Panorama on Wednesdays, we had a sure shock when Comrade Zelensky visited the Mi-6 when he was within the UK. The president of an unbiased state went to Mi-6. If I discover this launch, it is going to be attainable to reveal it. Then we realized that it was only a catastrophe. It was at that second, as a result of it implies that President Zelensky is a fully dependent particular person.

His drawback is that he’s a reusable toy. Both he sat on Kolomoisky ’s hand , then he sat on an American hand, on a British one … And right here one can already think about that even Zelensky’s entourage is, most probably, representatives of various particular companies and completely different pursuits. By the way in which, I ponder who Comrade Arestovich works for?  In truth, Arestovich helps us so much, individuals who oppose the pro-NATO media, as a result of he has performed so many bizarre issues and is doing a lot bizarre stuff. It’s tough to discover a extra useful particular person on this regard.

– Visible materials!

Sure, however they depart him. And that is the query – why is it left, if an individual has made so many jambs? These are guesses, however most probably, he’s a consultant of some companies that can’t be touched. 

So, round Zelensky, I believe, an enormous variety of such “sacred cows” have shaped, which he can not contact. Zelensky, for my part, is the final president of Ukraine, he’s an individual who is required solely to … He has the fitting to signal – that is the one factor he can. We are able to think about that the scenario will transfer additional, that’s, the central authorities can be weakened, and Zelensky can be wanted in an effort to invite some form of peacekeeping mission to Western Ukraine.

– That’s, a variant of the monarchy, solely not constitutional, however prostitutional.

Sure, prostitution. It’s wanted solely to legitimize sure processes that may happen in Ukraine after the Russian military, the forces of the LPR and the DPR go by way of the central a part of Ukraine. These are my guesses. I could possibly be flawed, once more, that is my concept. And Zelensky on this regard will do every little thing he’s advised, that’s, he’s a hostage. His household, who left for the West, can be a sure “amanat”, a priceless cargo that ensures the diligence on the a part of Comrade Zelensky. In my understanding, Zelensky will go to the top, he himself is a hostage, and we’re hostages of a hostage. Right here is such a matryoshka.

How will he end? I believe, like every consultant of the post-Soviet house who contacts the British. They’ll take him into the bathtub, give him a lovely scarf, and comply with within the footsteps of Boris Abramovich Berezovsky … That’s my concept.

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