Russia: The New World Order has come to an finish

Deputy Chairman of the Russian Safety Council Dmitry Medvedev has just lately made a devastating…

Deputy Chairman of the Russian Safety Council Dmitry Medvedev has just lately made a devastating assertion concerning the so-called “unipolar world.” That world, he mentioned, “has come to an finish.”

He added that “the People are now not the masters of planet Earth.”[1] Medvedev additionally talked about “the hypocritical white-toothed smiles of politicians and diplomats who mentioned one factor and did one thing fully totally different.”[2]

With respect to Russia being a European nation, Medvedev mentioned:

“By way of its geography and historical past, Russia is a European nation. Additionally, we’re European when it comes to our cultural id, as a result of a great a part of our inhabitants represents the European civilization, which is intently linked to the Christian civilization. However we even have lots of people that belong to the Muslim religion, in addition to to Russia’s different main religions: Buddhism and Judaism.”[3] These questions and solutions are from an interview that Russia Right this moment carried out with Medvedev:

Q: Clearly, we’re not speaking about geography right here. Right this moment, many Russians, together with the nation’s prime officers – if you happen to take heed to what they’re saying – really feel that we setting ourselves up in opposition to Europe, as its reverse.

A: No, it’s them who’re setting themselves up in opposition to us, making an attempt to differentiate themselves from us. They don’t have a monopoly on ‘Europeanness’. The European civilization developed steadily all throughout the continent. Positive, we’re not, in that sense, successors to the Roman Empire, in contrast to quite a few different European nations that belong to the Germanic language group. We’ve our personal historical past, however our historical past is simply as European as theirs. So, after they say to us that we’re now not thought-about European, that sounds ridiculous, frankly. That’s all I’ve to say about our id. That’s no purpose to make any judgments – you requested me a query, and I advised you that we’re much more ‘European’ than they’re. That’s all.

Q: The size of anti-Russian sentiment on this scenario is staggering. It’s like all of Europe, even the nations we believed had been our mates and companions, are united of their deep hatred for our nation, and it’s manifesting at each degree.

And now Europeans, who at all times claimed they had been so tolerant and dedicated to the ideas of democracy, say such horrible issues about Russia and Russians, about our leaders. To not point out Biden – I don’t suppose we’ve ever heard any rhetoric like that from a prime official of his caliber. Alternatively, if we take Poland, possibly Biden is just not so dangerous in spite of everything.

And if I’ll ask a query about Poland, if we might transfer on for a second from discussing the principle problem – what’s your evaluation of Warsaw’s place on this scenario? As a result of it looks like Poland is just not solely aspiring to play a key position right here, but additionally to have Lvov and the western elements of Ukraine as some type of protectorate. I perceive that that is two questions in a single, so might ask you each?

A: The rhetoric is unquestionably very sharp. It’s little question outlined by present occasions, and all of the political forces in Europe try to make use of this case to their benefit and obtain their very own targets when it comes to home coverage. Each nation has one thing to take care of, be it elections or a disaster, or the necessity to create a coalition. And they also want a goal or an enemy.

On this case, Russia is the designated enemy, so I’m not stunned by the rhetoric. You’re proper, although, whenever you say that typically it defies comprehension, or, as they are saying, goes past good and evil.

At an on a regular basis degree we additionally see this Russophobic rhetoric manifesting, though I might say it differs case by case. It additionally has to do with new communication strategies, akin to social media platforms, as a result of the patterns that had been much less frequent earlier than can now take root immediately.

Russophobic rhetoric is nothing new, although. Just lately I quoted Russian poet Fyodor Tyutchev, who talked about how the West ganged up on Russia 150 years in the past and did every part of their energy to show us into outcasts and pariahs. Tyutchev famous that this witch hunt lasted for 30 years.

I can’t assist however see sure similarities between these occasions and fashionable Russia. Russia in its present kind is simply over 30 years previous, and for these 30 years we’ve been blamed for every part, particularly within the final 20 years or so. They mentioned we’ve picked up every part from the USSR, together with its ideology, despite the fact that that’s not true, they usually criticize us for this and that. So the Russophobic rhetoric we’re seeing from the West now’s nothing new.

Every so often, we hear completely astonishing remarks, however we’re well mannered and we by no means get private. Nobody factors out that there are some individuals who exhibit clear indicators of dementia or old-age senility. Nobody talks about grandpas who lose their steadiness whereas climbing the steps to board a aircraft or overlook which manner their workplace is and go straight into the bushes. Nobody factors this out, as a result of we’re well mannered and we chorus from mentioning this stuff. However all that boils all the way down to ethics and good manners.

As for Poland, I did have to talk on the topic just lately due to the position Poland is making an attempt to tackle now.

Poland is greater than only a loyal liege topic of the US of America that seeks to show its loyalty each step of the best way, to indicate that it’s the US’ rock and major ally in Europe. In essence – on this manner or one other – Poland has been making an attempt to win again a whole lot of years moderately than many years of its failed makes an attempt to revive the previous glory of Rzeсzpоspolita. And if it might’t do this, then to a minimum of remind the world of the truth that Poland was a really critical energy each in Europe and globally, nearly an empire within the making. Right this moment, the nation’s elite is represented by the Legislation and Justice social gathering with Mr. Kaczyński at its helm, they usually have been on a pro-American and aggressively anti-Russian path for the previous ten years.

I can recall a special time – when Poland and Russia actively tried to revive their relationship, particularly within the wake of the tragic loss of life of the Polish president, and it appeared fairly doable as a result of there have been no impassable obstacles between us. However as soon as the opposition social gathering I simply talked about rose to energy, the nation’s vector modified dramatically, it grew to become wildly rusophobic. I can not name it something however political imbecility since there’s nothing extra to it.

They’re making an attempt to consolidate the voters which might be very anti-Russian, and it’s no secret that Poland has fairly quite a few such folks, as there are historic causes for that, in order that they’re making an attempt to make the most of that and put their finger in Ukraine’s affairs. Particularly since Poland is now internet hosting a pretty big variety of refugees from Ukraine, and Poland is making an attempt to make use of that for its personal profit.

They’re adopting some measures that don’t solely purpose to help the refugees (as a result of naturally one can solely wish to assist them) but additionally to search out one more technique to punish Russia. They’re proposing some new schemes, even amending the Structure so as to have the ability to confiscate Russia’s property. Yesterday, they expelled numerous Russian diplomats.

I don’t actually perceive what they’re making an attempt to realize with all that, as a result of if Russia had been to expel an identical variety of diplomats, Poland must shut down its complete embassy. Is that good? On the finish of the day, it’s as much as every sovereign state to determine whether or not to keep up diplomatic relations or not. However this type of coverage is totally harmful.

I’d wish to recap that Polish authorities are merely making an attempt to show their utmost loyalty to the US and get extra factors for it by the use of monetary and financial help, in addition to to get extra political help domestically.

That is all unhappy, and it’s not going to finish effectively. Fairly naturally, they’ll count on a symmetrical response to their actions or counter-measures dictated by worldwide legislation. We are going to merely find yourself in a scenario the place we cease speaking to one another fully. Is it good for Poland? I don’t know, it’s Poland’s choice on the finish of the day.

When will the Ukraine battle finish?

Q: In fact, we’re not on the Normal Workers, and I’m not a consultant of the Ministry of Protection, however I’ll let you know truthfully, my mates and acquaintances always ask how lengthy the offensive will final. However as I mentioned, we’re not on Frunzenskaya Embankment, however the Safety Council of the Russian Federation is right here. Can I ask you what you personally take into consideration the course of the operation and the way a lot it truly meets the targets that had been introduced.

A: The operation happened primarily as a result of the targets that the Russian state set for itself weren’t achieved by means of diplomacy. The President mentioned this in the beginning.

The course of the operation, the plans for its implementation are decided by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. In response to the Structure, it’s the President. The President gave his assessments. The operation is progressing in accordance with plan. This plan was ready and authorised by the Supreme Commander. Subsequently, I can’t give any extra assessments now, it appears to me that this can be a fully exhaustive evaluation that was given by the President.

However it’s apparent that the operation will proceed till the targets set by the President of the nation are achieved. These targets concern the way forward for Ukraine; the standing of Ukraine as a impartial state, a state that doesn’t pursue an anti-Russian coverage, a state that isn’t militarized, and a state that must be our regular neighbour.

Subsequently, till the outcomes of the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine are achieved, the operation should proceed – because it was conceived by the President of the nation, because it was determined.

The US thinks it’s above the legislation

Q: The US has taken related actions on a a number of of events prior to now and within the areas which might be by no means a part of their instant pursuits. These nations are usually not their neighbours or a risk to the US. Take Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan. However the US’s navy motion has by no means resulted in such an enormous and consolidated response from the West.

Nobody responded to a bombed marriage ceremony social gathering in Afghanistan by shutting down European garments retailers within the US. There have been no different repercussions, both. Why? Why are we witnessing such a strong response to Russia’s strikes that you simply say are totally justified when it comes to our safety?

A: Now this isn’t going to sound as an perception, however clearly the US believes it’s a nation exterior worldwide legislation, above everybody else.

Following the collapse of the USSR and an finish to the bipolar world order based mostly on the standoff between NATO and the Warsaw Pact, the US noticed itself because the winner and the only real beneficiary of the Soviet Union’s demise.

Whereas in actuality the Soviet Union broke up not due to NATO’s actions, however for inner causes. And that’s why they behave accordingly: they imagine they can’t be dropped at justice, however they’ve the proper to guage everybody, they’re the last word decision-makers, they’ve the proper to do no matter they need.

There are a selection of drivers behind this behaviour. To begin with, economically the US is a really robust nation. Secondly, it points the principle reserve foreign money with vengeance, persevering with to pile up its home debt. In actual fact, it’s the complete world that’s the US’s creditor. All the world could possibly be struggling, plunging into crises, whereas the People are printing {dollars}.

That’s the reason they now really feel fully unpunished on this respect as effectively. Precisely for that purpose the US’s actions in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam a couple of many years in the past, have by no means come underneath any authorized scrutiny by the worldwide group.

Nevertheless, on the time of the Vietnam Conflict, the Soviet Union was nonetheless alive, pushing for fairly heavy debates at multilateral platforms. The Soviet Union, as you understand, was serving to Vietnam again then. The US pursued its coverage for a very long time.

All of us bear in mind the best way it ended. Thoughts you, Vietnam is 1000’s of kilometers away from the US. Now, it’s a reality few folks bear in mind, even on this nation, as a result of it was a very long time in the past, however my Vietnamese mates mentioned the US intervention in Vietnam all through a lot of the Nineteen Sixties killed over a million Vietnamese.

Simply give it some thought. Over 1,000,000! Check out the map and see for your self the place the US is and the place Vietnam is. Nonetheless, the US went in, and over 1,000,000 folks died consequently.

Even then it was by no means extensively condemned though we had the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union in place.

And after the Soviet Union disappeared from the world map, together with the Warsaw Pact, the US obtained completely uncontrolled.

They suppose they’ll do no matter they need. Yugoslavia is a working example. We noticed utter disregard for worldwide legislation, using the armed forces and weapons by quite a few nations together with depleted uranium ammunition.

Was there any uproar? No. They realized they may go forward, concocted a justification, and obtained away with it. Right this moment, some European leaders admit “Nicely, sure, possibly they overreacted slightly”. Nevertheless it doesn’t transcend that.

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Once more, the US behaves this fashion all over the world as a result of they suppose there isn’t a longer any competitors. However they’re unsuitable. Life doesn’t stand nonetheless, prompting new developments in worldwide relations and new nations rising as robust powerhouses.

It means new facilities of gravity in worldwide relations are being formed. Take the Folks’s Republic of China, India, and the Russian Federation.

The unipolar world is over. The US is now not the grasp of planet Earth.

Russians who left are welcome to return, however not traitors

Q: You should be conscious that some Russians packed their belongings and left the nation instantly after the particular operation began within the Donbass. Do you suppose they’ll return, or is it a one-way ticket?

A:How ought to I do know?

Q: What are you able to say to these individuals who determined to go away Russia?

A: Each man is the architect of his personal fortune. It’s their proper to make such selections. Some folks have left in the interim, as I perceive. Others have left for good, fearing that the present scenario might have an effect on their lives sooner or later. It’s their choice. I received’t remark or criticize these folks.

It’s apparent, for me personally, {that a} vital a part of these folks will return to Russia ultimately. This navy operation impacts everybody’s psychological state, you see. Folks maintain enthusiastic about it. I imagine this may increasingly have been one of many causes, for some folks. However that’s it.

I imagine what’s extra necessary for the nation is, for instance, the best way programmers deal with present occasions. These companies are worldwide, and now they’ve ended up being reduce off from every part – fee methods, banking operations, main overseas prospects. For them the results are actually harsh. And I can perceive their motives, why they’re looking for a greater place underneath the solar.

The federal government has ready quite a few proposals to this finish, and the President has already signed a decree. Let’s hope that we’ll reach mitigating the unfavorable penalties for IT specialists and maintain them within the nation. Let’s hope that the majority of them will keep in Russia. This can be a actual downside. And I’m actually sorry for these folks, on a private degree, as a result of they’re in a dire scenario. And though it wasn’t us who launched these limitations, however we nonetheless should suppose methods to make issues higher for these folks.

Western sanctions are uniting, not dividing Russians

Q: And if we discuss entrepreneurs, about huge businessmen, have they got help amid the navy offensive? Making an allowance for the truth that now, an enormous variety of measures are being taken in opposition to them. Their homes, automobiles, yachts and every part else have been taken from them. How do you’re feeling about this, taking into consideration the truth that the West used to say that personal property must be honored. And, normally, is it regular to dam accounts and populate homes with refugees – this may be disagreeable to anybody.

A: If we discuss enterprise, that is additionally part of our society, together with huge enterprise – they’re, as they are saying, responsible with none guilt.

Let’s ask ourselves a query: normally, a minimum of somebody from this huge enterprise is – to some extent – able to influencing a small fraction, one iota, on the place of the nation’s management. I can let you know instantly: no, no manner. As a result of we’ve totally different duties.

Anybody who manages the state, to begin with, focuses on the pursuits of the entire nation, on the pursuits of the folks of Russia. One who manages his personal enterprise (this can be a crucial process), solely does this.

Subsequently, the calculations that, by limiting Russian enterprise, they’ll one way or the other affect the authorities, are completely meaningless, they’re merely silly. They’re additionally making an attempt to affect the sectors of the financial system which might be behind this huge enterprise. And these are a whole lot of 1000’s, thousands and thousands of our folks.

In actual fact, with these sanctions, the Western world is making an attempt to affect the residents of our nation, to harm them. And, after all, attempt to incite them to show in opposition to the course of the state’s management, in opposition to the course of the President, within the hope that in the long run, it should end in some type of bother, some issues for the authorities.

Nevertheless it appears to me that the individuals who generate these selections completely don’t perceive our mentality, they don’t perceive the angle of the Russian folks within the broadest sense of the phrase. They don’t perceive the incentives that when such stress is utilized (and this stress is just not on giant entrepreneurs, not on huge enterprise, that is stress on anybody and everybody), society is consolidated.

Even those that had been laborious achieved by ultimately or believed that they acquired little help, or some unsuitable selections had been made, on this scenario says: “Nicely, sure, sure, they most likely made a mistake in one thing. However normally, on this scenario, I’ll stand for the state”.

This, it appears to me, they’re completely unable to grasp, simply as they weren’t in a position to perceive 70 years in the past, and 100 years in the past, and through varied sorts of armed campaigns that had been carried out, together with in opposition to our nation. This sort of restrictions and deprivations – solely unite folks, consolidate folks, however don’t divide them. And that is their major miscalculation, that is the weak spot of those silly sanctions.

The loss of life penalty doesn’t have to come back again

Q: Let’s recall that the Council of Europe tried to impose restrictions on Russia for a few years. You mentioned just lately that there’s not a lot holding us again now, notably on the problem of the loss of life penalty. Russia has renounced capital punishment by acceding to quite a few the Council of Europe’s conventions. Since this is a vital problem for our nation, right here is my query: how possible is a return to the loss of life penalty? Does Russia want it?

A: This can be a very advanced problem. It is determined by the worldview normally. It’s a philosophical and ethical dilemma. There are divergent views on the loss of life penalty. And it’s pure, it has at all times been the case.

There’s one factor I do know for positive. The Russian Constitutional Courtroom was positively swayed in a few of its rulings by this nation’s participation within the Council of Europe’s conventions. These conventions are now not binding for us.

However, there are authorized tips offered by the Constitutional Courtroom on this problem. And this can be a fully sovereign choice, not a direct end result of our membership within the Council of Europe. There’s an apparent implicit connection, although.

Right this moment, there are not any restrictions on this regard. Nevertheless, it’s nonetheless a really thorny problem. There’s not solely a authorized aspect to it but additionally an ethical one. Even the essential, canonical sources of religions present opposing solutions to this query.

The spiritual view on this problem is among the fundamental arguments surrounding the controversy on the loss of life penalty in any nation. Europe deserted capital punishment in some unspecified time in the future. So did we.

In contrast to the US, China, and quite a few different nations. They nonetheless maintain it as punishment for individuals who have dedicated notably grave crimes, to begin with, homicide.

Once more, as we speak worldwide provisions are now not binding, however there are home authorized provisions set out by the Constitutional Courtroom. They replicate the present crime fee.

If it doesn’t get uncontrolled, I imagine this authorized posture might stay the identical.

However authorized postures are usually not everlasting both. A shift in our society might power a revision of the authorized posture. The choices of the Constitutional Courtroom are usually not sacred writ, they could change.

We’ve seen it all through Russia’s historical past. The Soviet Union abolished the loss of life penalty after the conflict. Nevertheless it didn’t final lengthy, and the loss of life penalty was restored fairly quick. This was as a consequence of a spike in violent crimes, together with murders.

I don’t know the way it will pan out going ahead.

Russians will bear in mind the West’s hatred perpetually

Q: Mr. Medvedev, do you suppose rather a lot concerning the stress that Russian nationals now should take care of overseas? Usually, they face actual hazard.

I noticed a video on-line displaying what occurred to the Russian Embassy in Eire – I lived there for a bit as a child, my father was posted there – and it was lined in spray paint and a driver crashed his automobile into the gates. It’s simply unimaginable. One thing like this might occur to any Russian nationwide overseas. In the meantime, the UN says {that a} ceasefire in Ukraine would carry the degrees of Russophobia down. What’s your tackle that place and does this connection make sense?

A: I wouldn’t name it the UN place. The UN is a global group comprised of greater than 200 nation-states. If we’re speaking about what the UN officers mentioned, effectively, that could be so.

Let me overtly say that just lately the UN governing our bodies, and Secretary-Normal Guterres as effectively, have made a number of statements that I might name questionable from the standpoint of worldwide legislation. The UN must be above conflicts as a substitute of taking sides. In fact, the degrees of Russophobia nowadays are by means of the roof, as we’ve already mentioned. These are manifested within the type of assaults on the Russian folks and stress exerted on our diplomatic missions.

What’s there to say on the topic? If we take diplomatic missions, the duty lies with the nation the place the diplomatic mission is positioned. That is the host nation’s process. As quickly because the host nation turns into detached to the destiny of an embassy, diplomatic ties are normally both suspended or severed. So the incident in Dublin that you simply talked about is totally Eire’s duty. They simply should take correct steps in response.

It occurs to bizarre folks, too – I see it and examine it, it’s clear from the web and social media content material the place they criticize Russia rather a lot. I assume it’s to do with present occasions. Some genuinely really feel that manner, some are doing it for the hype or as a result of everybody else does it. It’s their very own private alternative. Eventually the tide will subside, that’s the way it works. However the recollections will stay.

We are going to bear in mind it, too, together with the Russian individuals who obtained caught overseas whereas on trip or on a enterprise journey. It will likely be etched in everybody’s reminiscence. They are saying they don’t need Russians there, and it’s solely pure that our individuals who occurred to be overseas on the time will do not forget that. I doubt that they’ll suppose larger of Europeans now than they used to.

What concerning the hospitality, tolerance, and neutrality that you simply spoke of? All of it evaporated immediately, which suggests it by no means existed within the first place. It means there was no tradition and no values. It was only a façade, and now all of the filth has come to the floor, which we see within the habits of each individual spewing Russophobic concepts.

We are going to bear in mind it too. We received’t overlook anybody who did it – of their official capability or simply in private interactions. Nowadays, every part is recorded. All of us have a digital footprint. That’s one thing everybody ought to bear in mind after they write nasty issues about Russia, our insurance policies or our folks. It will likely be engraved in our folks’s collective reminiscence perpetually. And I’m not exaggerating right here.

Worldwide sports activities behaving within the ‘worst doable manner’

Q: Let’s discuss one thing else. You talked about IT specialists who’ve been gravely affected and who will get help, however I wish to ask you about our athletes. What’s taking place to them is unprecedented: they aren’t allowed to compete or they’re pressured to take action underneath a impartial flag, they’re pressured into signing petitions and making statements.

Everyone knows that in some sports activities, an athlete’s profession is fleeting. Gained’t Russia find yourself on the sidelines of worldwide sports activities? Competitors is essential – it’s essential for athletes to go up in opposition to proficient opponents. Now it appears that evidently the doping scandal was only a trial run. 

A: Appropriate. Elena, Ilya, you’re proper too. First, let me say that after all, it’s powerful on our athletes – identical as on our IT specialists. However for the latter, the challenges began pretty just lately, when our ‘mates’ began making an attempt to limit us in each manner and erect an iron curtain in terms of funds and legislation. For athletes, the scenario has been dire since 2014.

You’re proper, our athletes practice laborious, however they aren’t allowed to compete. If they’re, they should principally compete anonymously – no Russian flag, no Russian anthem. They’re pressured to distance themselves from their nation, saying that they solely signify themselves. That is cynical and amoral, and don’t even get me began on the IOC choice concerning our Paralympic crew. It’s merely incomprehensible. It’s monstrous and disgraceful.

So our major objective is to help parathletes, to ensure they really feel concerned in social life on par with everybody else. However they get advised, “No, your authorities is terrible and so we don’t care about you.” That goes in opposition to any ethical code. I feel that the IOC behaved within the worst manner doable right here.

Sure, it began eight years in the past with the doping scandal. We admitted that we had a doping downside in our nation, we’re at fault right here. However saying that Russia, I imply Russian coaches and athletes had been the one ones to make use of doping is outrageous and cynical. Different nations did it too, nevertheless it’s Russia that everybody turned on. The target that our ‘mates’, from the Anglo-Saxon world predominantly, set was to push Russia out of worldwide aggressive sports activities.

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What for? Once more, that was to stir resentment inside Russia and incite folks to do one thing about it. So our athletes have been struggling since 2014. We are going to proceed to help them in each manner and to arrange as many competitions domestically as we are able to. We are going to search to defend their rights in all organizations, despite the fact that that’s an enormous problem nowadays.

These selections had been made by particular folks within the IOC, the EU, the US, and the UK, which isn’t a part of the EU anymore. It’s clear that sure persons are behind these selections, and people disadvantaged of aggressive sports activities will channel their bitterness of their route.

Moscow’s guidelines on utilizing nuclear weapons

Q: President Putin has typically insisted that Russia solely acts to defend itself in opposition to the hostile actions of the West. And in a current interview, you mentioned that our nation has sufficient ‘may’ to place our enemies of their place. This suggests that Russia has thought-about some type of retaliation within the occasion of aggression. What precisely did you imply by that, Mr. Medvedev?

A: We each know precisely what I meant. Russia is just not your common nation – it’s a everlasting member of the UN Safety Council. And, as a side-note, let me say that each one the ill-conceived plans to try to take away us from the Safety Council are fully groundless. This may go in opposition to the UN Constitution and the whole thing of worldwide legislation, for that matter. We’re speaking concerning the whims of particular person states. That is my first level.

And my second level is, Russia is a nuclear energy with the biggest stockpile of strategic nuclear weapons on the planet. Naturally, nobody is threatening anybody, however you talked about the remarks made by President Putin… Just a few weeks in the past, our nation’s nuclear deterrence forces had been placed on excessive alert. It was a easy message in order that any nation that tries to intrude with Russia’s overseas coverage would know what to anticipate. They heard us and mentioned they wouldn’t strive something.

I definitely hope this has helped calm down among the hotter heads in Poland and different US satellites. Nonetheless, they do often give you ridiculous concepts like closing the airspace over Ukraine. Fortunately, there are cool-headed and affordable analysts on the Pentagon and elsewhere who say that is completely out of the query as it could result in a direct navy confrontation with Russia.

I feel this will probably be sufficient, for now. Though we do have a particular doc on nuclear deterrence which states explicitly the circumstances underneath which the Russian Federation has the proper to make use of nuclear weapons. There are a number of such situations, let me remind you what they’re.

First is the launch of ballistic nuclear missiles to assault Russian territory. Second is using nuclear weapons or different weapons of mass destruction by an adversary in opposition to Russian territory or its allies. The third has to do with an assault on crucial infrastructure ensuing within the crippling of our nuclear deterrence forces. And, lastly, the fourth is when an act of aggression is dedicated in opposition to the Russian Federation or its allies – whether or not with nuclear or typical weapons – which threatens the very existence of the state.

All these situations are listed within the doc which was authorised by the President’s govt order. This testifies to our willpower to uphold the independence and sovereignty of Russia. Let nobody have even the slightest purpose to doubt that we’re able to giving a correct response to any assault or encroachment on our nation, its independence, or its insurance policies.

However understand that I’m saying all this since you requested the query. Clearly, our place is that nonetheless difficult, any scenario should be approached utilizing diplomatic instruments. And within the case of Ukraine, negotiations stay essentially the most constructive and affordable plan of action. We notice that diplomacy doesn’t at all times end in success, however that is nonetheless the proper technique to go.

The US had ‘extra brains’ throughout the Cuban Missile Disaster

Q: You simply talked about one thing that terrifies everybody on the planet – the prospect of a nuclear conflict. One other scary prospect is the navy confrontation between Russia and NATO. In some ways, these two situations are related – in actual fact, they could be one and the identical. Do you imagine there’s a threat of such a conflict breaking out? Would you examine the present scenario to the Cuban Missile Disaster, when the world additionally appeared prefer it was teetering on edge? Again then, we referred to this standoff because the ‘Chilly Conflict’. What would you name the present state of relations between Russia and the collective West?

A: No one desires conflict. Nuclear conflict is a risk to the very existence of human civilization. On this sense, these analysts who say, maybe considerably cynically, that the invention of nuclear weapons has prevented an enormous variety of conflicts within the twentieth and twenty first centuries, are proper. That is true.

So clearly there may be at all times a risk. As a former commander-in-chief, I’m effectively conscious of its scale. Our folks know that NATO’s nuclear weapons goal amenities on this nation and our warheads are geared toward targets in Europe and the US. However that’s life. We should at all times maintain this in thoughts and act in a accountable method. So simple as that.

As for the Cuban Missile Disaster, for apparent causes, I don’t have any private recollections, I solely find out about it from historical past books. However I had an opportunity to speak to one of many witnesses, Fidel Castro.

Right this moment, we reside in one other actuality, in a special world. There isn’t a Soviet Union, no Warsaw Pact, many illusions are gone.

Lots of issues are usually not in place anymore, however the classes of the Cuban Missile Disaster sank in fairly effectively again then. It had a sobering impact on everybody, together with the management of the US, NATO, the Soviet Union, and the Warsaw Pact.

The world was dwelling by means of a Chilly Conflict then however proper now the scenario is one way or the other worse, for my part. Again then our opponents didn’t attempt to carry the scenario within the Soviet Union to a boiling level so aggressively.

True, their actions might have been disguised, however no sanctions had been imposed on complete industries or agriculture, not to mention private sanctions.

It by no means occurred to anyone to impose sanctions on Brezhnev, Podgorny, and Kosygin. They understood, after all, that it made no sense, simply as they do now, however a minimum of that they had the brains to not do it then.

Now everyone seems to be in an ungainly place. They’ve imposed sanctions, however it’s nonetheless obligatory to speak if solely to forestall all kinds of undesirable penalties, together with such horrible ones as, say, a battle between Russia and NATO. It’s like everyone seems to be underneath sanctions, everyone seems to be on some type of checklist.

I signed the well-known START III, or Begin Treaty, with President Obama. That treaty was prolonged by President Putin and President Biden. Why make it so embarrassing? The treaties had been signed, nevertheless it was achieved by people who’re on the sanctions checklist. If the Russian management had been irresponsible on this regard, you possibly can most likely say: “If that’s the best way you deal with us, then that’s it, goodbye.”

There’s a authorized doctrine often called clausula rebus sic stantibus, which signifies that worldwide treaties are legitimate so long as the circumstances that gave rise to them exist. These circumstances have disappeared. You aren’t treating us as counterparts anymore. The individuals who signed the treaty are in your sanctions checklist. Perhaps it’s time to tug out of it? I’m simply making an attempt to level out that these sanctions don’t make any sense, they’re absurd.

This was not the case throughout the Chilly Conflict. And it’s a actuality now. The connection between the Russian Federation and the West, the US-led Anglo-Saxon civilization within the broad sense of the phrase, might be in a worse state than within the Nineteen Sixties and Nineteen Seventies. There isn’t a doubt about that.

Fixing up Yalta for brand new world order talks

Q: Now, concerning the talks with Ukraine… how would you assess the progress? It seems that some preparations are nonetheless doable. How will these agreements be assured? Will the West must bear some type of duty on this regard? As soon as the particular operation is over, given all of the components, would we want a brand new Yalta Convention to formalize the brand new world order, which, as you say, has ceased to be unipolar?

A: It’s an unrewarding process to touch upon negotiations, and it’s unsuitable. Talks want silence. And it’s not with out purpose that the edges are negotiating by way of videoconference, nearly day by day, and never within the face-to-face format that requires extra time. That’s the reason I received’t touch upon the talks. I don’t wish to create issues for the negotiators or give floor to extreme hopes or emotional responses that such feedback on my half might generate.

The objective of those talks is evident – to solidify the outcomes which the Russian particular operation pursues, specifically the impartial standing of Ukraine, its demilitarization, and the repeal of the legal guidelines pushed by Nazi ideology that had been launched by the Ukrainian authorities. No matter they are saying about these legal guidelines, they successfully divide the folks by their nationwide id. Some are referred to as folks of the proper nationality, others are virtually excluded. And there are additionally quite a few different targets Russia is looking for to realize.

Ukraine is pursuing its personal targets, after all, and hopes to realize them in the middle of the talks. They embody, primarily, retaining its sovereignty and securing additional growth of the nation.

As for the ensures that the negotiated phrases will probably be applied, there are two sorts. Firstly, there are ensures offered by the signatories of the agreements. In the long term, those that will signal the paperwork, have the authority and duty to see to their implementation. And secondly, there are ensures associated to numerous worldwide mechanisms. I can’t overstate their significance right here, after all, as a result of there are loads of agreements that had been signed however not applied. However, in any case, that is higher than authorized uncertainty or repeated makes an attempt by Ukraine to weave its manner into NATO so as to create a direct risk at Russia’s borders. In that respect, an settlement and the authorized ensures it offers are manner higher than no settlement. And that is the best way to resolve the battle.

You talked about Yalta. I can solely say that we’ll be comfortable to welcome overseas delegations within the Russian metropolis of Yalta for talks. The palace that was used prior to now for this function is just not in splendid state, however it might nonetheless be used to accommodate friends.

An assault on their very own financial values

Q: Mr. Medvedev, one doesn’t have to be Fidel Castro to…

A: Fidel Castro can’t get replaced, he was distinctive.

Q: …to speak concerning the occasions of 1998. Let me share my observations with you. Even individuals who had been born after 1998 maintain asking me as a journalist – they appear to suppose that I’m competent to reply this query…

A: However you’re competent. Journalists know every part. They know greater than politicians.

Q: Thanks. So that they maintain asking me if we’re going again to 1998. They usually point out the default. We’ve prevented the default state of affairs for now, as we had been allowed to make funds on our sovereign debt. However nonetheless?

A: Do you bear in mind 1998, personally?

Q: I do not forget that the ruble depreciated 4 occasions in opposition to the US greenback.

A: I see. Sure, it’s a reminiscence that isn’t simply forgotten.

You can not step into the identical river twice. I used to be not associated to state governance again in 1998 and noticed every part by means of the lens of a standard citizen, a businessman if you happen to like. However the Russian state and society had been a lot much less protected again then.

However I bear in mind 2008 and 2009 very effectively after I personally needed to sort out the monetary disaster. I even have a wonderful recollection of 2014 and all of the years that adopted, after I needed to handle the problems because the chairman of the Russian authorities.

Each disaster is exclusive, in its manner. In 2008, we created G20. They wish to take away Russia from G20 now. However I bear in mind the way it was born proper in entrance of me. The choice to create G20 was collective. First President Bush participated, then Barack Obama. Everybody was delighted that representatives from so many various nations had been sitting on the identical desk – Russia, the US, China, India. G20 was a format that was born from consensus, based mostly on unanimity. And now they counsel eradicating us from G20. No, guys, you may’t do this!

You requested us to hitch G7, to be the eighth-member state. That’s proper. Nevertheless it’s totally different. G7 is your personal membership and if don’t need us to be a part of it, we are going to go. And we did, we had been “ushered out”. However this membership is just not necessary any longer. G20 is a special story. It was G20 that helped us out of the 2008 monetary disaster.

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Why am I speaking about this proper now? As a result of the scenario we’re in is totally different. Again then, all of us had been making an attempt to beat the worldwide monetary disaster, brought on by the monetary bubble in the US of America. Our frequent objective was to face in opposition to it. And we achieved that objective, by the best way.

With various levels of success, we pulled the Russian and world financial system out of that disaster in a comparatively brief time frame. What’s taking place now, nonetheless, is an financial conflict that the West declared in opposition to Russia – to cite a French minister. They declared an financial conflict in opposition to Russia. And they’re making an attempt to wage this conflict with out guidelines.

Why? You requested, however I didn’t get an opportunity to reply. What’s written on the banners of any capitalist society, any market financial system? Utter respect for personal property rights! That is sacred! The world might perish, however justice will prevail. Every thing might perish, however the personal property will stay.

And what are they doing? They’re blocking the belongings of our monetary establishments, even the Central Financial institution. They’re even speaking about confiscating these belongings, i.e. nationalizing them. Pay attention, this can be a actual conflict with out guidelines. What would be the penalties of this conflict? Destruction of the entire world financial order. That is an assault on the financial values of our planet – paradoxically, these values had been first fashioned in Europe and the US of America, in our nation, and later, on the finish of the 18th century and the start of the nineteenth century, in Asian nations as effectively. Now we see how the founding ideas of the market financial system are being rejected. What can we are saying then? In the event that they don’t worth these ideas, allow them to do no matter they plan to do, however, naturally, it will power Russia to reply with symmetric measures.

However, alternatively, this new problem and the response that should observe could possibly be very efficient. I’ve mentioned it many occasions earlier than, and that is true – had sanctions not been imposed on Russia in 2014, we might’ve had a worse scenario in our agriculture proper now. Everyone understands it effectively. We stopped their imports, and now our meals safety is at a really excessive degree.

I hope that even on this scenario, our colleagues within the authorities will be capable to discover enough options that will foster the event of our business, together with plane engineering, the automotive business, and key sectors like microelectronics and IT. We should take care of these points anyway. Sure, it will likely be tougher now, however, alternatively, there isn’t a one else we are able to rely on. This time we should do every part ourselves.

Rubles for oil was a ‘fairly apparent’ transfer

Q: Let’s transfer to an important problem. Paradoxically, the West says they’ll reduce us off every part, however they’ll’t reduce themselves off from our fuel and oil, just because it could backfire, they might freeze. They’ll now attempt to use much less vitality and give you new proposals. However, they’ve to this point avoided sanctions in opposition to our oil and fuel.

However going ahead they are saying they wish to cease utilizing fuel and oil from Russia. How life like is it? Ought to we simply sit and look forward to that to occur, or moderately take some motion? The Russian president introduced a transfer to the Russian rouble because the settlement foreign money. How will it work out? What is going to it appear to be in apply?

A: Nicely, allow them to purchase it so long as they need. Nobody desires to lose cash, proper? That is all bravado and chest-beating.

Nicely, it might work for the US since they’ve an array of suppliers, they’re remoted from Europe, they aren’t so depending on our deliveries.

The US has banned our oil, although it hasn’t gone that effectively. The People will maintain reminding President Biden concerning the worth of a gallon. Ukraine could be very far-off and gasoline costs someplace within the Midwest are at a document excessive proper now. Inflation is 10 p.c. It’s a mind-blowing quantity for the US.

So this choice will hang-out the US administration. Its customers will say an enormous ‘thanks’ for what their authorities is doing to their home financial system as a aspect impact of makes an attempt to sway the Russians.

Total, I’m philosophical about it. It’s our pure wealth, it’s our fuel and oil. We’ve to commerce it with Europeans, with Asia. Usually, there was a world vitality shift each 50-70 years. I have no idea what would be the major vitality supply in 2050 – hydrogen or some other know-how. I merely have no idea. So we’ve to organize for that as effectively.

However proper now, this can be a vital a part of our earnings, and we’ve to get the total compensation for it. Definitely, we’re taking a look at Asian markets within the present atmosphere, and are determining methods to diversify our provides.

Our European mates look like in an enormous hurry to surrender oil and fuel provides from Russia. However in actuality, it’s a very difficult process. 40 p.c of their fuel provides come from Russia. Russian oil accounts for about one-third of their imports.

However in any case, it’s as much as them. In the event that they wish to eliminate it, they’ll. The one query is, when. That’s one thing that we additionally want to reply to.

As for President Putin’s choice to modify to rouble settlements, I feel it’s a fairly apparent transfer. They shut down the correspondent accounts for our business banks, made settlements in {dollars} and euros not possible, and disconnected the banks on the sanctions checklist from SWIFT, a minimum of a few of them. What did they suppose we had been going to do?

The one authorized tender within the Russian Federation is the rouble. So it’s a easy supply: since there isn’t a different manner, it’s a must to pay in roubles. So allow them to discover a technique to pay.

Anyway, consultations are underway. We’ll see the way it works out. Nevertheless it was a really intuitive choice.

Q: What about Nord Stream? The People are dashing to bury it…

A: They’re dashing.

Q: They name it “a hunk of metallic”, utilizing some peculiar phrases to explain it. Do you suppose this mission nonetheless has some potential? And if we speak concerning the infrastructure, how lengthy will it keep in form with out getting used or serviced, with out pumping fuel?

A: I’m not an professional on the topic, I can’t assess the sturdiness of the Nord Stream infrastructure. I’m positive it’s sturdy, however I don’t know the diploma – we’re not speaking about months, clearly. So far as large-scale financial initiatives go, I are usually optimistic – regardless of our present circumstances and the emotionally charged context that we’re coping with when passions run excessive.

The factor is, there are particular legal guidelines that may’t be ignored, even when our mates try to violate them proper now. There have been vital monetary investments, this can be a crucial and useful mission, worthwhile for all companions. Conflicts come and go, however the financial system and cash keep.

I feel the Nord Stream 2 mission has a great future. It would occur if our companions determine to start out utilizing their heads in some unspecified time in the future and do not forget that they’ve taxpayers and voters to reply to, that there are particular social obligations that they’ve to satisfy. Their duty is just not merely to harm Russia however to resolve key issues of their financial system. They want to consider serving to their very own folks, ensuring that their taxpayers’ utility payments are usually not by means of the roof.

And I’ve to say this. What occurred proper after they made their choice regarding Nord Stream 2? What we mentioned would occur. Utility payments went as much as unprecedented ranges. As excessive as two thousand euros in some situations.

Let me remind you that only recently, a couple of years in the past, we talked about pipeline fuel, not the spot market. Nevertheless, something over 400-500 {dollars} or euros appeared like an outrageous worth. And now we see these numbers. Is it a great scenario? In fact not. That’s why I are usually cautiously optimistic after we discuss this.

Capitalism means they’ll come again

Q: Do you suppose we’ll see Western corporations returning to Russia in some unspecified time in the future, I imply these corporations which might be withdrawing or suspending their operation in Russia now?

A: In fact, we are going to. It’s solely a query of when they’ll return and what it’ll value them when it comes to losses. You see, Russia is a reasonably large market, some say a premium market. So if they’re prepared to lose a share of their earnings, it’s as much as them. We are able to do with out them, however the factor is that they don’t wish to lose it, they maintain telling us that they’re ready and hoping for a peaceable decision of the battle in Ukraine. They usually maintain asking us to not take over or appoint exterior administration to or nationalize their operations as a result of they wish to return.

I feel one of many press secretaries, both of the US or one other nation, mentioned that the administration had nothing to do with this choice made by main companies – that it was solely their very own choice, their civic place, that they put their heads in that noose of their very own will. They wished to surrender this market – I say they should learn Karl Marx. Marx explains very effectively that capital won’t ever forego an opportunity to extend revenue.

Which means until they had been underneath large stress from their very own governments, I imply the governments of the West, none of those corporations would ever even consider giving up Russia as a market. This was a political choice. And political selections have an expiry date. The financial system is, alternatively, perpetual.

The US is the true ‘rogue state’

Q: So, the sanctions have been utilized to place stress on each sector of our financial system. It feels as if now, in distinction to the scenario when the Soviet Union put up the Iron Curtain to close itself off from the West of its personal will, Russia is being pressured to place that curtain up and grow to be some form of a brand new North Korea. It’s like folks don’t need it, nobody desires it, however the huge highly effective machine is already working, and somebody is pushing the buttons. I’m saying it’s like North Korea as a result of North Korea was buried underneath the sanctions, or it’s like Cuba the place folks nonetheless drive vehicles made within the Nineteen Sixties. So possibly somebody desires Russians to start out going by means of scrap metallic and repairing previous ZAZ “Zaporozhets” vehicles to drive them…

A: What a disgrace that I bought mine. I used to personal a Zhiguli automobile from the 80s. I assume I might use it now.

Q: That was most likely the concept. So what do you suppose – as a worst-case state of affairs – might this type of factor occur in Russia?

A: I feel everybody understands that it might’t. Though in the middle of this interview I did query the mental skills of the individuals who give you all these sanctions in opposition to Russia, I need to say there are totally different folks there, and a few notice very effectively what’s happening.

You see, all of them perceive that, with all due and utmost respect to our mates in Cuba and the Democratic Folks’s Republic of Korea, Russia isn’t any Cuba and no North Korea. Russia is Russia, the world’s largest nation, a everlasting member of the UN Safety Council, an enormous financial system, and nuclear energy, which is why all these concepts that Russia may be curbed like Cuba or North Korea as soon as had been and that it might simply be saved that manner don’t have a leg to face on. It’s not possible. It’s simply totally not possible. Even when some within the political circles and elites of the West would need it that manner.

Sure, there are clearly challenges and we’ll have to beat them. Sadly, they exist each on the governmental and on a regular basis ranges. Nonetheless, it’s nothing new for us, and it’s not catastrophic. It pales compared to the hardships that our nation needed to undergo within the twentieth century. I let you know what – it’s not even in the identical league as the issues we confronted throughout the coronavirus pandemic.

Again then, we actually felt uneasy every now and then, as a result of we had no thought how this virus would behave, no matter the place it got here from. Might it kill off most of humanity, like in some sci-fi books? So again then issues had been a lot tenser, I’d say. The tragedy after all is that the virus induced so many deaths.

However this can be a totally different story, and there may be no illusions right here. They’re making an attempt to place us into the ‘rogue nation’ or ‘rogue nation’ class. As for its etymology, I feel it was Reagan who got here up with the time period. The Russian translation for it’s ‘outcast’, however ‘rogue’ is definitely nearer in that means to ‘outlaw’.

In actual fact, it’s the US that’s the rogue nation right here. It’s not as a result of we don’t like People. It’s as a result of the US is consistently launching wars of conquest internationally. They’re the outcast and the outlaw.

First printed on March 30, 2022.

[1] “‘The unipolar world has come to an finish,’ Russia’s former president says,” Russia Right this moment, March 24, 2022.

[2] Ibid.

[3] “Put up-Chilly Conflict world order is over, former Russian president says (FULL INTERVIEW),” Russia Right this moment, March 26, 2022.